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Desiree Webdesign

2008-05-08 08:36:43

#16

Great campaign! Hope it works.

antonius

2008-02-28 20:06:47

#14

If a physically disabled person, with no use of their legs, complained that a ramp accessing your building didn’t work with the proprietary square wheels on their wheelchair, what would you do?

Would you say ‘upgrade your wheelchair’?

Of course you would, IESicks has square wheels!!!

Nikos Katsikanis

2008-01-24 10:30:53

#13

I've just got into web development in the pasrt 6 months and I am glad I have missed the lst 4 years of IE agony, I'm glad that things will be getting better as ie usage % drops

Matteo

2008-01-23 13:02:36

#12

@Dwayne
thanks for your positive comment.
Did you check the script page? If you test the javascript, you'll see a in-page pop-up appear warning you about the potential threats IE6 can expose you to.
This message is obviously customizable, so one can freely edit it and, as you rightly suggested, warn their users about IE6 virus infection 'proneness'.

@Muhammad
hey, thanks a lot for your support! It's good to see people supporting this campaign.
Please don't stop spreading the voice!

Muhammad Arslan Ali

2008-01-23 01:49:33

#11

You can view logo of that campaign on my orkut scrap book. You can request on my scrap book and i will post that logo on your scrap book as well

http://www.orkut.com/Scrapbook.aspx?uid=14255580139999477901

Muhammad Arslan Ali

2008-01-23 01:46:07

#10

you are running a brilliant campaign. My all office colleagues and me are great supporters for your cause. We had countless nights working only for fixing work in IE's old versions.

To spread your cause. I have submitted your story at digg.com

http://digg.com/microsoft/Stop_IE_6_Compaign

Please digg that story

Dwayne Charrington

2008-01-16 18:54:10

#9

Hey Matteo,

I completely agree with what you're doing here. Being a web developer myself I am sick and tired of all those endless IE6 bugs slowing down my projects and making me want to throw my PC out the window.

I think the approach you're taking is a tad harsh in a way. Businesses will forever be using IE 6 hacks until it is no longer used anymore, or Microsoft forces users to update to IE8 when it's released. I applaud what you're doing though, I just can't end support it's not that easy for me especially when my projects are viewed in all browsers.

The idea of a nagging information bar saying:
"You're using IE6, if you don't want viruses to get steal your information please upgrade."

Scare your users into thinking if they are using IE6 they'll get viruses. It'll work because the people that use IE6 are the stupid ones and the stupid ones always get viruses and have to pay to get them removed.

- Dwayne Charrington.
http://www.dwaynecharrington.com

Umer

2008-01-04 16:33:45

#8

Yes, I say, lets get our pitch forks and march over to the IE 6 mountain.

Chad

2008-01-04 16:06:48

#7

I am an IT consultant and have to work with the internet everyday. IE6 has been designed to make my life and the life of fellow consultants hell. GO FIREFOX!

Y'arr

2008-01-02 10:44:46

#6

The problem is, a large chunk of the people still using IE6 won't realize that the site is messed up because of the browser they are using. They will simply assume the site is bad, and move on to a different site. For a business, this is a bad thing. In fact, for the most part, for any website, this is a bad thing. Instead of promoting the end of IE6 hacks, continue using them, but add a little nag bar warning about downloading at the very least, IE7 (and soon, I hope, IE8 with its standards compliance, though knowing Microsoft, they did exactly what needed to be done to pass Acid2, but no more). One would think that, if seen enough times, even the most dense of people would eventually get the point. Also, comments requiring that JavaScript be enabled really do suck, especially for people browsing with protection (NoScript). A form is a basic function; fancying it up so that it requires JavaScript is going overboard and is just as bad as having to use hacks for IE6.

Matteo

2007-12-01 09:01:05

#5

@Amanda This site was developped under Firefox 2.0 for Windows, so it just works fine. I've been reported of an issue preventing users from typing into the comment form when using Firefox for Mac, or AdBlock as also Reynard confirmed.

@Reynard, thanks, I will investigate that issue. Any idea of what could be wrong?

I'll just disregard the 3rd commenter, as his/her silliness and rudeness speak for theirself. You don't even deserve a reply.

Reynard

2007-12-01 03:59:00

#4

Amanda, Probabilityzero, Site Owner - you cannot add comments if you have Adblock Plus extension in Firefox. I had to disable it on this page and reload the page. Otherwise, I appreciate the effort, but working around adblock problem would be nice. Don't worry, though, this is not the first site that adblock has problems with.

probabilityzero

2007-11-30 21:54:37

#3

Also, what are you talking about amanda, having to load IE to use this site? I'm using Firefox right now, and it all works fine for me.

probabilityzero

2007-11-30 21:53:08

#2

I absolutely agree that people should stop using IE6. I doubt this site will do anything to convince the people still clinging to it, though. The only people who still use it are those either don't know any better (and don't know that they're using "IE6") and those that refuse to change (I know one girl who refuses to use anything else because other browsers "break" her myspace profile design with its error-filled css).

amanda

2007-11-30 15:58:33

#1

hey, guess what? i came to this page in ie 6 because you can't even type into your form in firefox. nice job :p

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WARNING: we detected you are using IE6 (or previous) and that's probably why you are -or been redirected- here.
This site will look screwed up to you, and this is intentional, as we didn't put any effort into making it work properly with your browser. We strongly suggest you to keep reading to find out why.

What is it all about?

Well, let's first say what it is not about. This is not an anti-Microsoft or an anti-IE-all versions campaign, nor an endorsement of some specific non-MS browser. This site is aimed at convincing people to dismiss their old, obsolete, buggy browser (the actual list of defects goes on and on). Which browser you're wondering. I should have named it stop-ie-prior-to-version7. Although more appropriate, it is obvious why I didn't. But at least now you know. And if you or somebody you know are using any version of Internet Explorer prior to 7, this site is just for you.

what

I have a dream somebody once said. We have a dream too, maybe it’s naïve or too ambitious but as long as we’re allowed to dream, we’ll never give up.

All of us can fight together to get a better online world, a better web, where the standards are there to be respected, where surfing online is a pleasant experience, where web professionals develop rich online applications that users enjoy just exactly as they were conceived, with no need for hacks, tricks or workarounds. Finally, we dream of an online world where people know they have the power to choose.

For this dream to become true, what is needed is that everybody understands the urgency of switching to a real modern browser, because still using IE6 or previous damages you as a user and all the people who work to create online contents.

why

IE6 should be put in a museum, along with all of its previous versions, because it's way too old. Its release date is August 27, 2001. Yeah, you got it right. 6 years ago!

For technology, this is a whole geological era.
Would you ever date a mummy? I bet you wouldn't, as long as you're sane. Nevertheless, there are people out there still using it, or even worse IE5.5 or 5. Sad to notice that you're one of those! Don't want to sound offensive, but this is seriously raising some doubts about their and your sanity.
There is not a single reason today to keep using one of the old versions of IE, really.
They're prone to severe security vulnerabilities, they're not standard compliant, they're buggy, they don't have all the features that all modern browsers have (one for all, native tab browsing). Moreover, they compromise your web experience as a user, and make a hell of a web-developer life. That's why it's time to say goodbye to IE 6 or less, and go and get a new, real modern browser.

There are many out there to choose among. I'm not going to suggest you one or another, though, because they're more or less equally good alternatives. You will never read anywhere in this site that IE is evil just because it's IE or it's M$, because this is not the truth. There are too many sites that just urge you to switch to another browser, none of them though reminds you that using another browser is not enough to keep you safe from online threats. So, whichever browser you're using, keep it updated to the last available version!

who

First of all, you as a user.

If you’re a Linux guy, I know you’re with me, ‘cos trying to stop IE6 can be misinterpreted as trying to damage Microsoft. You don’t have IE under Linux anyway, so you’re a natural supporter of this campaign.

If you’re a Mac guy, chances are that you’re surfing the web with either Safari, Camino or Firefox. I really hope you’re not one of those guys using IE for Mac –if there are still some-, cos in this case, really, and I'm saying it from the heart, you don't deserve a Mac.

If you’re a Windows guy and have Windows XP, ok, it's a fact that IE6 came with it pre-installed. But with IE7 having been released, there are really no more excuses left to justify you. If you still haven't upgraded to IE7, we both know why you didn't, besides laziness.
UPDATE (October 5, 2007): Microsoft now offers IE7 as a free download to all
If you just can't install IE7 then, as I already said before, go and choose among the many browsers out there.
The same suggestion applies if you’re using an older Windows O.S., like e.g. Windows2000, which has, by the way, been officially discontinued.
Sorry, but technology is something you have to keep up with.

Then, you as a web developer.

How many hours have you been spending trying to fix that line of code which worked perfectly in all browsers except IE6 ? How many weird hacks did you have to learn? How much hair you tore and how many headaches you suffered from for IE not following the rules, despite all of your efforts?

Gone are the dark days, where the only MS browser available was IE6.
IE7 is here finally and although it’s reported to still suffer from some bugs, it’s way better than its predecessor. Don’t you think it’s time to say stop to IE6? Would you ever care about compatibility issues with Firefox 1.5 at this time? I believe you don’t, and you do just right, because the old version is known to be buggy and is not supported anymore.
Did you ever buy a PC software? Ever had any trouble? I bet if you asked the tech support, their first answer would be go and get all the O.S. available updates, then try again.

There is no point in supporting old, discontinued browsers versions.
Do spend your time better, and educate your customers to upgrade their browsers to the last available version. This is the best thing you can do as a professional, apart from developing the last 2.0 killer application.

how

Here it comes the crucial part.

If you’re a user, it’s quite easy.
Go and get a new browser. Upgrade to IE7 or just get another one. These are the main ones you can choose among:

get Internet Explorer 7 get Safari get Camino get Firefox get Opera

If you’re a developer, before the release of IE7, not supporting IE-at least 6 wasn’t just practicable. You had to write code that worked seamlessly with IE6 and all the other more standard-aware browsers. But today, IE7 is available.

If developers and designers stop to support the old IE versions, it will force people to take the two minutes process to update to IE7 or get an alternative browser.
But you can do more: actively force your users to upgrade. How?
By injecting the following javascript in all of your sites homepage, users still using IE<7 will be informed that they are not welcome.
If you think this means limiting someone else's freedom, try to see it this way: we don't want to limit them, we want them to get their freedom back. And this is just all this site is about.

How to use the script:

Depending on how incisive you want to be, you can choose between two modes:

no mercy: IE<7 users will be prevented from visiting your site. A warning in-page message will be shown explaining them why they are not welcome, with a link to this site where they can fully understand what’s behind.

tolerant: IE<7 users will be warned, but they still will be able to visit your site.

Now, grab the following files and put them in your js directory (or any other, just remember to change the path in the <script> tag):

  • Detect.js (1.6 kB) - browser detection
  • StopIE6.js (no mercy | tolerant) (3.3 kB) - automatically injected by detect.js, only if IE<7 is found

Then, add the following code to the <head></head> section of all your site pages (or at least your homepage)

<script src="js/detect.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

<test this code (as seen by IE6 users)>

That's it. You're part of the movement!